Suleiman писал(а):
In Armenian historiography the death of Valarsh (Vologezes II) cannot be dated
precisely. However it is assumed that he reigned in the period before 198. According
to Movses Khorenatsi, Valarsh II was alive before 216 and Khosro, the father of Trdat,
was his son and direct heir. Based on the abovementioned inscription and the Zoroastrian
Kaaba, we can conclude that Movses Khorenatsi was right in dating the death of
Valarsh II to 216. Hamazasp, who was the King of Kartli in the 260s and was at the age
when he could participate in his last fight (about 265 AD) where he died (“The Life
of Hamazasp”) could not have been the husband of a woman whose father died in 198
AD.
The current inscriptions clarify the dates of king Hamazasp’s reign. Zoroastrian
Kaaba’s inscription told us that he was the king of Kartli by 262.The Bagineti inscriptions,
discovered in 1990s, make it clear that it was King Hamazasp and not Aspagur
that reinged at the time of Armenian king Khosro. And the passage from “Aspagur’s
Life”, which describes the struggle of Georgians and Armenians against Sassanids, tells
us about the joint fight of Khosro and Hamazasp and not Khosro and Aspagur. And all
this was possible till 256 before Shabur I killed Khosro. As for Hamazasp’s nephew
(son of sister) Rev, who after the death of Hamazasp in the battle as the son of an
Armenian king becomes the governor of Kartli is the first Sassanid on the throne of
Kartli; beacause in the middle of 260s, when the abovementioned should have happened,
the only Armenian king was Shabur’s son and his heir HormisdArdashir. Consequently,
Rev could have been the son of only HormisdArdashir.
This can explain why Hamazasp occupies such an important place in the Zoroastrian
Kaaba Inscription. There is another fact confirming the above statement. In the
inscription, apart from the sons of Shabur, there are also their Sassanid wives. Just two
of the wives of princes are not mentioned on the inscription, which makes V. Lukonin
doubt their nonSassanian origin. One of the two princes is HormizdArdashir. By the
way, the son of Hormize Ardashir – Hormizdak is mentioned in the inscription of the
Zoroastrian Kaaba. However further he disappears. We consider that named Rev, he
became the king of Kartli after the death of Hamazasp, approximaletly in 265.
Понятно это, но я хотел бы увидеть саму надпись, где Амазасп упоминается под 260-ими годами. Подозреваю я, что могли иметь ввиду другого...
777sergey777 писал(а):
И когда это Аршакиды стали армянами? С какого века ?С 4 века н.э. или с 5 века н.э.
Врать некрасиво.Юпитер нелюбит лжецов !
Зато Янус двуликий любит лгунов.
Сергей, спокойно, никто не врет - Аршакиды, изначально парфяне, по ходу своей истории арменизировались или огрузинились в лице появившегося на троне Великого Айка или Иберии своих ветвей...
Suleiman писал(а):
Исходя из новых открытий...
1. Мерибан/Мириан III действительно выходет сасанидом. Только он не сын Шапура I, а его правнук.
2. Первым иверским сасанидом является Рев I, отец Мириана III, сын первого армянского царя сасанида Ормизд-Ардашира, который далее становится шах-ин-шахом Ирана и не-Ирана.
3. Рев I занимает иверский трон после пленения императора Валериана шахом по указанию своего деда Шапура I, после убийства на поле боя последнего грузинского фарнавазида царя Амазаспа II где то 265 году.
И того, вывод... В Иверии правили только аршакиды-арташеситы ( Аршак, Артаг, Бартом-Фарнаваз II) ...второй династии аршакидов не было - были сасаниды.
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